Ratbeard on Jun 4, 2013 wrote:

Zeppers, I am having trouble reproducing the bug with Sniper and Spirit Sight. It seems to be working when I test it.

I don't want to call your report into doubt (especially since Talents definitely took such an unexpected hammering) but can you just confirm for me:

a) the specific weapons you are using

b) you definitely have the talent, and have the weapon equipped

and

c) that you are testing their ranges in combat (not out of combat)

We don't show the updated ranges on the weapon popups-- and we only show the damage updates on your character sheet as well. So to verify that they are working or not requires actually getting into combat and trying to hit someone +1 square away (4 with a staff, 5 with a musket for example).

RatBeard, so far, all of the Sniper Sight's for the Musketeer's are now working, it's only the spirit sight with combo weapons that are still bugged.

Prime Example is the Magister Templi's Set, which is a Shooty/Staffy Weapon with a range of 3. For the Musketeer, it gets it's range of 4, but for the WitchDoctor, it's range is still only 3.

A few other notes:
Rain Maker's Kit Mahrata's Kit, & the Paleontologist's Kit are all Slashy/Staffy weapons, which are giving out the staffy bonuses, but no slashy Bonus at all.

Also, the Royal Fusileer's Set is a Smashy/Shooty with a range of 3. It gets the +1 Sniper range, but does not get any smashy weapon bonus, which I got lucky and only trained so far, the +2, so I did not waste a bunch of practice points getting to Smashy 2. It should also get the Smashy bonus like any other class receives their bonus for secondary classes trained. After all, Practice points are not free and can't be retrained for free either!

Thanks for looking into this.

DarthJT

Thanks for the feedback.

I'll check them out (starting with the weapons you flagged) and hopefully I can find the problem and fix it.

By the way, I've identified (and fixed) the problem with the weapon damage talents. (As always, the fix has to wait for a patch window.)

Darth JT on Jun 6, 2013 wrote:

Oh yeah, one more question RatBeard, if you don't mind.

The Smashy/Shooty weapon, is a pistol and a Shield. Perfectly fine to me, I like the look, however, a shield is still a smashy weapon and can do damage, so why is sneak attack not unlocked? It states, must be used with a slashy, smashy, or stabby weapon.

Thanks,

DarthJT

That weapon set counts as a Ranged weapon. (Sight unseen, I am guessing Sneak Attack is requiring a Melee weapon.)

I'll take a look at sneak attack and see if there's a better way to organize the logic and/or improve the messaging.

Ratbeard on Jun 6, 2013 wrote:

That weapon set counts as a Ranged weapon. (Sight unseen, I am guessing Sneak Attack is requiring a Melee weapon.)

I'll take a look at sneak attack and see if there's a better way to organize the logic and/or improve the messaging.

Hmm, Isn't Smashy Melee? And if it is a combo weapon, wouldn't both parts of the combo count?

Ratbeard on Jun 8, 2013 wrote:

No.

Same as if you have a pistol and sword combo. It counts as a melee weapon, not a ranged weapon.

Both parts of a combo weapon should "count" with respect to weapon damage talents. And as much as possible, I try to make them "count" for other talents.

But due to animation restrictions (and some other complex logic...), a combo weapon has to function as one or the other.

Understood, thank you. So is the first one of the list the primary talent? That way I will know ahead of time which powers will grey out?