Is there any reason why witches can't train another Mojo Echo? It seems like people can get relentless 2 and burst fire 2 from the class trainer and new pets, so it seems kind of unfair for witches not to be able to learn Echo 2.

AndrewDeathblade11... on Jul 31, 2015 wrote:

The epics trained by secret trainers are trained by the secret trainers because they are not trained by the regular trainers. So it's evident that our class trainers will never train Flanking, Cheap Shot, Relentless, Overwatch, Parting Shot, Burst Fire, Coward's Bane, Readied Spell, and Witch Hunter, and they'll only be obtainable through these secret trainers or provided by gear.

Madame Vadima is likely going to train us the rest of our Mojo Echoes, it's already covered. (will be.)

I understand that, but to make it fair, it should be changed. Other classes can use their weapon (without needing a combo weapon) to get a chain of 3 additional hits, with either burst fire 2 or relentless 2. Witches are limited to one mojo echo, and have very limited epics to start with. No blade storm 2, etc.

AndrewDeathblade11... on Jul 31, 2015 wrote:

The epics trained by secret trainers are trained by the secret trainers because they are not trained by the regular trainers. So it's evident that our class trainers will never train Flanking, Cheap Shot, Relentless, Overwatch, Parting Shot, Burst Fire, Coward's Bane, Readied Spell, and Witch Hunter, and they'll only be obtainable through these secret trainers or provided by gear.

Madame Vadima is likely going to train us the rest of our Mojo Echoes, it's already covered. (will be.)

And this is not correct anyway, there are pets and gear that give epics (even before this update) that are normally obtainable by a class trainer. Examples are first strike, blade storm, repel boarders.

Overall, witches have been left behind in terms of epics compared to other classes. We should be able to have the option of having a chain of hits with our wands after a normal attack. Other weapon types have this ability, so the wands/staffs should have it also.

As an example, if I get a critical on an attack with the nefarious staff, i can get another hit with mojo rising, and one more with echo. So thats a total of 3 possible hits.

On the other hand, if a melee class gets a critical hit, they can get blade storm. And then another blade storm if it criticals again, and then one more possible if there is a 3rd critical. So with a single normal attack, there is the possibility for 6 additional hits with relentless 2 and blade storm 2. The same goes for a musketeer with Burst Fire 2 and Douple Tap 2.

To make this more even, witchdoctors should be able to learn Mojo Echo 2 and Mojo Rising 2.

stormy quentin ver... on Jul 31, 2015 wrote:

I understand that, but to make it fair, it should be changed. Other classes can use their weapon (without needing a combo weapon) to get a chain of 3 additional hits, with either burst fire 2 or relentless 2. Witches are limited to one mojo echo, and have very limited epics to start with. No blade storm 2, etc.

They cannot get relentless 2. They can get relentless 1 and Follow Through, though I see your point.

Voodoo Cornelius on Jul 31, 2015 wrote:

They cannot get relentless 2. They can get relentless 1 and Follow Through, though I see your point.

They can get Relentless 2, one from the secret trainer, one from the new buccaneer apex shark pet

stormy quentin ver... on Jul 31, 2015 wrote:

They can get Relentless 2, one from the secret trainer, one from the new buccaneer apex shark pet

Oh, really? Awesome! I must get a pet now!